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Veckan som gick - vecka 48 at Same Same But Different
[...] gjorde. Och Tim Moldon fortsätter att titta på baksidorna med Twitterrapporteringen och föreslår ett #moron-filter. Och kritiken som kommit handlar också om att Twitter inte är att lita på – en kritik som [...]
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links for 2008-12-01
[...] Bring on the #moron filter on the need of establishing some human & automated filters; a kind of authority in the real-time diffusion of information. (tags: filter information twitter flux) [...]
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Crisis,Twitter and Noise
[...] others have been pondering on various aspects of Citizen Journalism using Social Media tools and how could the noise be reduced from this [...]
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Twitter zur Krisenkommunikation? « Net Thoughts
[...] eine größere Verlässlichkeit der Bürgerberichte in Ausnahmesituationen erreichen könnte. So überlegt etwa Tim Malbon, eine Twitter-Community in Zusammenarbeit mit CNN zu [...]
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Very thought-provoking piece. On the night itself I badly wanted better filters, at first because I was trying to locate a friend in Mumbai; then later, once I knew he was safe, I just wanted to lose the mob. Eventually I switched off…it was overwhelming and only got worse.
Yet the fact remains that Twitter is set up as a conversation, for anyone to join. The egalitarian in me does not want to see that change. Whilst a group of professional overseers may be the way to go, we risk losing what makes Twitter unique.
Perhaps instead we need a simple, primary or secondary filter which is always used to denote ‘utility’ about any given subject? If it’s personal opinion or commentary, send your tweet elsewhere.
I have (perhaps too much) faith in the ability of the crowd to moderate itself – we just need some rules to follow. As I scanned through 25-50+ Mumbai tweets a minute, it was hard to find and then keep up with the genuinely useful. As you say, the signal needed cleaning up. What if we had had a simple hashtag which separated out genuine information associated with the attack (covering how to obtain information about family & friends in the city to on-the-ground reports & calls for help, for example) from the chatter (sympathetic, bigoted or otherwise)? I would hope it would have been respected. A start, at least.
If not, god help us… time to bring on the wikipedia-style moderators.
Overall, it strikes me the topic raised here goes beyond Twitter and its relationship with the terrible events in Mumbai. It’s both the oldest and the newest of questions – can you, should you, try to control the crowd?
Mel Exon
November 30, 2008
at 11:26 pm
Hi Tim,
Our tumblr is a log of our work, mixed with markers, timelines, odd bits. It’s not a news source.
Did you see the mumbai timeline we posted? It’s a snapshot of the very beginning of the event. We can’t show everything, but within that screen grab we feel the “trajectory” of the event can be forecast. But it’s not for folks who want all the details. That’s not what we’re aiming at.
Our aim is within the screen grab we posted today – the Wordle Cloud on tweets we posted PRIOR to the 1st tweet within the mumbai event. We’re filtering & tagging the twitter firehose for pre-conscious connections which when combined provide a possible forecast of a major event. Not always bad, but that’s where our world is right now.
Re your idea of worldwide storytellers – love it – so much so we began to code a desktop app called ‘TwitterProbe’ which would allow one to create their own filtering around events and then reblog/retweet as needed. This project is on hold for several reasons: 1) we need the twitter firehose which is not yet available publicly 2) we no longer have funding to support the program. Something may change in the future, but we’ve moved our focus to the forecasting.
hth,
Michael
tweetip
December 1, 2008
at 2:00 am
Completely agree 100%. There’s no doubt that Twitter could be used as an invaluable media tool, but there needs to be some major filtering and fact-finding to really make it stand out.
Do we have a dedicated and recognized group of journalists or news centers delivering the Tweets? Is citizen reporting the answer?
It’s hard to say what the answer is, and sadly until then it looks like we’re stuck with the chaff along with the wheat…
Danny Brown
December 1, 2008
at 5:40 am
Twitter is young, and the way it’s being used is constantly evolving. The #mumbai feed this week was a new stage in its evolution.
As has been with Twitter’s use to date, I believe that users will determine how it’s used in the future. A peer reviewer system, when you have over 100 tweets a minute, will never work, and it also defeats the purpose and appeal of Twitter.
For users, in Twitter’s present form, I believe the solution to avoiding all the comment noise is using more detailed searches, such as #mumbai and emergency, or #mumbia and emergency and phone.
Unfortunately, I think you will see an increase in twitter feed spam and trolling. Dropping links into your web site within the busy #mumbai feed is a sure way to increase traffic to your web-site, and oddly, I only observed a little of it this week.
Better feed search tools is the answer in my opinion. Twitter could promote subsections of #mumbai for example. Further empower the users, instead of installing regulators.
jeff
December 1, 2008
at 6:42 am
Hi, Social Media has its boons and banes. Also, SM is not always Citizen Journalism so we shouldn’t expected the contributors to follow the norms and protocols of Journalism. Its just common people who have found a new tool to express their anger, frustration and joy. Yes, we do have trolls and stalkers here, but they are found in real life too and it would be too harsh to label them as #moron :)
Kashif
December 1, 2008
at 8:16 am
Hi Tim,
Nice post and for one I am happy to see at least some people thinking on how to improve the system(Twitter here) rather than basking in the glory of self-proclaimed victory of Social Media over Conventional Media.
I too had a tough time keeping track of relevant tweets on #mumbai and was quick to change to #taj for the want of selected(and less) tweets.
About your proposal of having a selected group of people having more authority than other, I am not too sure if it will be possible/achievable. However an easier solution could be if some people start tagging new and useful information with a different tag #mumbainews or something.
Mayank Dhingra
December 1, 2008
at 7:03 pm
Interesting points on Bring on the #moron filter, On a related topic if i need to get data I use python for simple html extracting data, but for larger projects like documents, the web, or files i tried extracting data which worked great, they build quick custom web scrapers, extracting data, and data parsing programs
Stephie
December 4, 2009
at 5:06 pm
This is a great post, Tim. Thank you.
But I think you might be the filter already. You’ve presented a considered position focussing on a certain aspect of #mumbai in your post here. You filtered.
Like other commenters has said, the idea of filtering Twitter seems dangerous. You can’t filter without censoring. And the most powerful aspects of Twitter are it’s speed and it’s openness. Any filtering would reduce this.
I think there are two sides to this: media production and consumption.
What needs to develop around it is a media ecosystem that fills the gap between Twitter and CNN (or the Guardian or the BBC).
In Twitter we have the base level of unfiltered, unfounded conversation that is fast yet unreliable. I reckon that as blogging becomes faster and more common, we might end up with a middle-layer of media outlet that can filter Tweets, images and videos to create more considered thought-pieces fast. That could solve the production lag between Twitter and CNN, perhaps.
And then to your point, which is more about consumption. We need tools that allow is to filter information better. The same way we choose our newspaper according to our bias. I think this will be a longtime coming but one can imagine a cross between Google Reader and a Twitter client that calculates your interests, biases and provides live filtering of all your streams. Cory Doctorow alludes to such things in Makers.
Good post. I’ll follow it up at some point with a more considered POV.
Ben Mason
January 9, 2010
at 11:34 am